Friday, October 24, 2008

Defining the Family

What is happening to FREEDOM OF RELIGION?! What is happening to PARENTAL RIGHTS?! This is crazy!
I usually don't like to share depressing news but this is some serious stuff!!
Please watch these two videos!!!
Click on these links

There has been alot of talk about proposition 8 on the California ballots.
I found this quote from a woman who IS lesbian and she is opposed to changing the defenition of marriage: "...there are ways to make sure that the gay and lesbian community get to have their rights without infringing on others rights, I think Ellen and the gay and lesbian community needs to try to get with their congressional supporters and enact a law or amendment that would be called the parriage act, ( a pair of the same, in other words two men , or two women = a pair thus a parriage), and that will give the gay and lesbian community the rights they want without changing the definition of marriage. Why is the definition of marriage important to remain unchanged, well because if the definition of marriage gets changed to include two men or two women , then that will in essence violate the rights of any churches , and all people that do not believe that gays should marry, and IT WILL TURN THE BIBLE INTO A BOOK OF HATE AND CHURCHES INTO PLACES OF HATE CRIMES, because the bible states that men are to be with women, and I for one know that the bible is not an instrument of hate , nor are most churches. ..."
This is not about being discriminatory against gays... it's about changing the definition of marriage so religion is discriminated against and here are some examples to prove it:

Adoption services: Catholic Charities in Massachusetts refused to place children with same-sex couples as required by Massachusetts law. After a legislative struggle — during which the Senate president said he could not support a bill "condoning discrimination" — Catholic Charities pulled out of the adoption business in 2006.

Parochial schools: California Lutheran High School, a Protestant school in Wildomar, holds that homosexuality is a sin. After the school suspended two girls who were allegedly in a lesbian relationship, the girls' parents sued, saying the school was violating the state's civil rights act protecting gay men and lesbians from discrimination. The case is before a state judge.

Medical services: A Christian gynecologist at North Coast Women's Care Medical Group in Vista, Calif., refused to give his patient in vitro fertilization treatment because she is in a lesbian relationship, and he claimed that doing so would violate his religious beliefs. (The doctor referred the patient to his partner, who agreed to do the treatment.) The woman sued under the state's civil rights act. The California Supreme Court heard oral arguments in May 2008, and legal experts believe that the woman's right to medical treatment will trump the doctor's religious beliefs. One justice suggested that the doctors take up a different line of business.

Wedding services: A same sex couple in Albuquerque asked a photographer, Elaine Huguenin, to shoot their commitment ceremony. The photographer declined, saying her Christian beliefs prevented her from sanctioning same-sex unions. The couple sued, and the New Mexico Human Rights Commission found the photographer guilty of discrimination. It ordered her to pay the lesbian couple's legal fees ($6,600). The photographer is appealing.
Wedding facilities: Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association of New Jersey, a Methodist organization, refused to rent its boardwalk pavilion to a lesbian couple for their civil union ceremony. The couple filed a complaint with the New Jersey Division on Civil Rights. The division ruled that the boardwalk property was open for public use, therefore the Methodist group could not discriminate against gay couples using it. In the interim, the state's Department of Environmental Protection revoked a portion of the association's tax benefits. The case is ongoing.

Youth groups: The city of Berkeley, Calif., requested that the Sea Scouts (affiliated with the Boy Scouts) formally agree to not discriminate against gay men in exchange for free use of berths in the city's marina. The Sea Scouts sued, claiming this violated their beliefs and First Amendment right to the freedom to associate with other like-minded people. In 2006, the California Supreme Court ruled against the youth group. In San Diego, the Boy Scouts lost access to the city-owned aquatic center for the same reason. While these cases do not directly involve same-sex unions, they presage future conflicts about whether religiously oriented or parachurch organizations may prohibit, for example, gay couples from teaching at summer camp. In June 2008, the federal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals asked the California Supreme Court to review the Boy Scouts' leases. Meanwhile, the mayor's office in Philadelphia revoked the Boy Scouts' $1-a-year lease for a city building.

Please take some time to view these other links:

Interview With Elder Dallin H. Oaks and Elder Lance B. Wickman: “Same-Gender Attraction”

Los Angeles Times: "Protecting Marriage to Protect Children"

Video: Discussion With Elder David A. Bednar

"...We warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.
We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society."-The Family: A Proclamation to the World


Tony said...

Thanks for posting this. It is Such an important topic, and one that has been on my mind lately, what with all the talk about the Proposition. I hold your same view, and believe that defining marriage as thus will only hurt churches and infringe upon others rights, which is not at all constitutional. Such is one of the things I don't like about Obama, along with abortion rights. But that's another story...

Having many people in my family who are gay/lesbian, I can say for a fact that I love them more than anything, and that they are good people. Many other people have come to recognize this, that they are indeed our brothers and sisters. I suppose what I don't like is people accusing those who stand up for this Proposition of doing it as an act of hate, as if it insinuated that homosexuals were less than human. I still fully believe in them having rights to equal housing, work, etc.

Whether this Proposition passes or not, only time will tell. I have a feeling it may not, but such will be the case. It just makes it that much more important that we stand for our beliefs in these times of trial, and spread the Gospel message abroad, helping to protect families all over.

Sorry if this seemed like a rant, Alicia. I meant it in no way as hateful or anything of the sort, and hope it didn't come off as such.

Alicia said...

Tony, I am totally with you and I get what you are saying. I had a couple of gay guys that were my next door neighbors. They were really nice. I'd bring meals to them and they would bring a desert over to me as a thank you. We always talked as we were both working out in the yard... we found the common ground. It was great.

My sister lived a lesbian lifestyle for almost 5 yrs. She is now in a heterosexual relationship but still hangs out with her lesbian friends. My sister and I couldn't be more different, but it's amazing how close we are. I talk to her just about every week on the phone. She calls me and I call her. We don't try to change each others beliefs or force our opinions on each other, many times we agree to disagree without being disagreeable , ya know what I mean. The whole "tolerance" issue goes BOTH ways for us. I mean I don't have to change my religion or back down on my beliefs to accommodate her. I love my sister so, so much and I have no doubt that she loves me. So I get what you are saying! Thanks.