Monday, May 4, 2009
"They do much good"
"Notwithstanding the significance of our doctrinal differences with other faiths, our attitude toward other churches has been to refrain from criticism. They do much good. They bless mankind. Many help their members learn of the Savior and His teachings.
A reporter for the Washington Post visited one of our Church meetings in Nigeria. The reporter interviewed one new member and told of his conversion. The reporter states:
“[He] said . . . he jumped off a city bus and walked into the [LDS Church building]. . . . He immediately liked what he heard inside [the chapel], especially that no one preached that people of other faiths were going to hell.” This echoes the feeling of numerous converts to the Church since its organization.
Our leaders have consistently counseled us “to live with respect and appreciation for those not of our faith. There is so great a need for civility and mutual respect among those of differing beliefs and philosophies.”
It is equally important that we be loving and kind to members of our own faith, regardless of their level of commitment or activity. The Savior has made it clear that we are not to judge each other. This is especially true of members of our own families. Our obligation is to love and teach and never give up. The Lord has made salvation “free for all men” but has “commanded his people that they should persuade all men to repentance.”- Elder Quentin L. Cook Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
Sunday, March 8, 2009
The "Comparison Culture"
It's blatantly obvious that this illness plagues the media, we see it everywhere: in our music, T.V., online, magazines and advertising. It's everywhere! Can't we all just get along.
...But there is one place we tend to compete in that may be even more destructive than what we find in the media... it is in our own families and in our own churches. Yes, in the very places that should be the most reverenced and where love should abound the most is ironically the place where we often do the greatest amount of competing and comparing ... Why is that??
After church, I went home and settled in still thinking about the "comparison culture problem." "Why is that?" Why in our families and in our churches do we compare how someone gives a lesson better, speaks better, is more educated, sings better, keeps house better, has children that behave better, looks better, knows their scriptures better, prays better, serves better, smells better (my husband threw that in), you get the point.... we all do it... why is that?... especially in our churches where we know we need to love each other as the Savior did!
Images of people running a race came to my mind:
It's not a race against anyone... however it is a race against the clock to help, love, serve, come together and share the Gospel. But every once in a while I think we tend to think we are racing each other.

I imagine anywhere you get a high volume of people striving for the same goal there is a tenancy to think linearly….that we are in a race against each other….some “ahead of us” and some “lagging behind.”
Linearly we all start in the exact same spot at the exact same time with the exact same path. This is the problem with thinking linearly.... we all come to God at different times in our lives and in our own unique way. We have all face different challenges in our circumstances and in ourselves... we are not "cookie cutter" people
Since Christ is at the center of our lives, and the center of this Church… it only makes sense that the goal we are trying to achieve is centrically focused and not linear. Centrically, so as we strive towards the same “Goal” we grow closer, we pull together… no matter what direction we are coming from, how many times we fall, or how fast or slow we run.
A centrically focused goal allows us to be more unified.... we all start at different points, at different times and have very different paths that get us there, it is expected that our paths are different it is more beautiful this way... and as we press forward we come together and become unified in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I thought the closing hymn went extremely well with the message too. I've sung it before but this time it seemed new to me. #281 The words pressed so deeply on my soul, “Fill my mind with understanding; Tune my voice to echo thine. Touch my hand with gentle friendship: Warm my heart with love divine.”
Friday, January 9, 2009
"Ishmael, Our Brother"
Wherever you go you will find good people, honest and true people, responsible citizens, people who love their family's, who love God and practice virtue. You can find them in just about any culture, country, religion, these people are just like us. And on the flip side, you can find the opposite in just about every race, religion and background. The trouble comes when we label and generalize and say all people of that race are this, or all people of this religion are that. How sad when we cluster people like that and cynically brand them like a herd of cattle. Just because someone is Arab or because someone is Muslim does not make them a terrorist!
Many Arabs are peaceful, charitable citizens and have not chosen this war, they are victims too. The Terrorists are the Extremists and have grossly twisted their religion to fit their own agenda and create terror.
I have been doing some studying on Islam. It must be known that the name Islam means "peace." I have a very good and wonderful friend who practices Islam. I believe her religion is very sorely misunderstood as are many Arabs. The Koran teaches charity and doing good to all men. I can see this with my friends who are Muslim, I have been amazed at how incredibly charitable they are.
Last night I went to lds.org and searched "Islam"...
To my surprise I found a very long article from a 1979 Ensign entitled, "Ishmael, Our Brother". I was fascinated with it and it brought me some greatly needed incite. I hope you might take the time to read it to better understand our Muslim and Arab brothers and sisters.
Love,
Alicia
Here is a link to the article printed 30 years ago about Islam http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=68ea615b01a6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1
Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Christian Courage
"To respond in a Christlike way cannot be scripted or based on a formula. The Savior responded differently in every situation…. When we do not retaliate—when we turn the other cheek and resist feelings of anger—we too stand with the Savior. We show forth His love, which is the only power that can subdue the adversary and answer our accusers without accusing them in return. That is not weakness. That is Christian courage.
“As we respond to others, each circumstance will be different. Fortunately, the Lord knows the hearts of our accusers and how we can most effectively respond to them. As true disciples seek guidance from the Spirit, they receive inspiration tailored to each encounter. And in every encounter, true disciples respond in ways that invite the Spirit of the Lord. Paul reminded the Corinthians that his preaching was “not with the enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power” (1 Corinthians 2:4). Because that power resides in the Spirit of the Lord, we must never become contentious when we are discussing our faith.”Monday, June 30, 2008
True Texas Mormons
This is what I was thinking today.....
With all the recent news of the "Texas Raid"...One thing I find interesting is how many people confuse my church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints with the FLDS church. They think we are like the people who follow Warren Jeffs and other polygamist sects. But we are not them! And they are not Mormons!
Sometimes it can be frustrating to see the news media muttle things up so much that they make no clear distinction of who we really are. Well let me tell you that we are normal, every-day people, we don't wear our hair in a bun with old style dresses, we are not encouraged to "hide" from the world, our women and children are not suppressed.... And we most definitely do NOT practice polygamy! (That would be like assuming all those who believed in the Old Testament practiced polygamy today just because Abraham, Issac and Jacob did.)
I wish the media showed how much the leaders of our church speak very highly of women and encourage them to get as much education as they possibly can. We are encouraged to think for ourselves, to study out of the best books and most importantly we are taught to prayerfully study the Scriptures and ask God for personal direction. We are taught that the Savior is the only way to Salvation. We are taught to value our families and as mothers to take pride in nurturing and raising children.
In my church the man is not above the woman, nor the woman above the man.... we are a "help meet" to each other (a help meet is an "equal partner" "And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:18 . Husband and wife are to be equals and walk side by side in love, loyalty and respect. Any kind of abuse is absolutely not tolerated in my church. We are taught to follow the Savior's example of love, gentleness, understanding, humility and kindness. Victims of abuse are encouraged to get help and the abusers are strongly urged to repent.
I found these videos of of what some "Texas Mormons" really look like. ***Remember to pause my music player at the bottom of the page before viewing the videos- so there is no sound conflict.
I love The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I know that it is true, I know we have a living prophet on the earth today, President Thomas S. Monson. The Book of Mormon is another Testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Savior of us all... it is a companion and witness to the truths taught in the Bible. I love the Bible too and know that it is the Divine word of God! I know that Joseph Smith was called of God to restore the gospel of Jesus Christ in it's fullness, with all the saving ordinances taught by the Savior Himself and the power to perform these ordinances by one who holds the Priesthood.
I know these things and I can't deny them. However, I will not argue with others or try to make others believe the same as me. I respect others views and they are free to share them with me as I hope to be free to share with them. If someone really would rather not talk about these things, it's fine... we can agree to disagree agreeably. Like I said in the beginning of this post, I don't know that their are very many who really even read my blog... but for those who do... this is me! You cannot separate me from my religion because my religion is in my blood, it's a part of me- it helps me come to know God and follow my Savior.
As always...God bless you!
Alicia
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
"Our Fading Civility"
God Bless You!
Thank you for visiting my blog!
Alicia
These are the quotes I'd like to share today. All of the below are from President Gordon B. Hinckley:
"It is not enough just to be good. We must be good for something. We must contribute good to the world. The world must be a better place for our presence. And the good that is in us must be spread to others. This is the measure of our civility."
"Civility is the root of the word civilization. It carries with it the essence of courtesy, politeness, and consideration of others. How very much of it we have lost in our contemporary society! All of the education and accomplishments in the world will not count for much unless they are accompanied by marks of gentility, of respect for others, of serving as a good Samaritan, of being men and women who look beyond our own selfish interests to the good of others."
"This is the essence of civility - to extend, without price, a helping or lifting hand to those in need; to anxiously look for ways to strengthen those who may have less than we do."
"We are sons and daughters of God, each a member of the divine family. As surely as He is our Father, we are all brothers and sisters. We simply must work unitedly to remove from our hearts and to drive from our society all elements of hatred, bigotry, racism, and other divisive actions and words that limit a person's ability to progress, learn , and be fully accepted. Snide remarks or racial slurs, hateful epithets, malicious gossip, and mean and vicious rumormongering have no place among us."
"None of us needs someone who only points out our areas of weakness and the ways in which we have fallen short. We need someone who encourages us to go forward, to try again, to reach a little higher this time. Excellence is difficult to achieve in a vacuum."
"Imagine how our own families, let alone the world, would change if we vowed to keep faith with one another, strengthen one another, look for and accentuate the virtues in one another, and speak graciously concerning one another. Imagine the cumulative effect if we treated each other with respect and acceptance, if we willingly provided support. Such interactions practiced on a small scale would surely have a rippling effect throughout our homes and communities and, eventually, society at large."
"There are few things more delightful than participating in a conversation with bright and happy people who have something to say, whose dialogue is witty, scintillating, and punctuated not only by good humor but by thoughtful dialogue about serious and important topics.... There is plenty of humor in the world without resorting to dirty jokes or uncouth language."
"Generally speaking, the most miserable people I know are those who are obsessed with themselves. By and large, if we complain about life, it is because we are thinking only of ourselves. For many years, there was a sign on the wall of a shoe shop I patronized that read: 'I complained because I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet.' The most effective medicine for the sickness of self-pity is to lose ourselves in the service of others."
"I don't suppose that many of us will be remembered a thousand years from now. But in this world so filled with problems, so constantly threatened by dark and evil challenges, we can and must rise above mediocrity, above indifference. We can become involved and speak with a strong voice for that which is right and good, and we can lend our efforts and our resources to helping those who have been saddled with handicaps and burdens."
"Caring for others, seeing and reaching beyond our own wants and comforts, cultivating kindness and gentility toward others from all of life's situations and circumstances - these are of the essence of civility, a virtue to be admired, a virtue to be acquired."
- All of the above are quoted from the book by President Gordon B. Hinckley, "Standing for Something."
Thursday, May 22, 2008
How Mormons Deal With Fame

SALT LAKE CITY 15 May 2008 Seventeen-year-old Utah Mormon David Archuleta, one of two finalists in the singing contest American Idol, is experiencing what many other Latter-day Saint celebrities have faced before him. The Osmonds, golfing great Johnny Miller, singer Gladys Knight, Jeopardy! champion Ken Jennings, snowboarder Torah Bright, author Stephenie Meyer and other high-profile Mormons have all had to deal with questions about their faith and their fame. How do they reconcile the two?
Novelist Stephenie Meyer, whom London’s The Times newspaper called “a teetotal Mormon mother of three”, told that publication that her style, informed by her faith, resonates with a lot of readers. “I know a lot of kids who relate to my books because they don’t drink and they are not sexually active,” she said. “There are a ton of them but they don’t get a lot of representation in literature or television or movies.”
One notion some reporters bring to their interviews with Mormon celebrities is that all Latter-day Saints are the same: squeaky clean and somehow unsuited to fame. The reality is, however, that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are all different, and those rising to prominence in their respective fields will handle the spotlight in their own ways. Some choose to push their beliefs aside, to varying degrees, as they make their way in fast-paced, high-profile industries such as movies, music and professional sports. Many, though, find ways to stay grounded and true to their faith while seeking to excel in their chosen pursuits.
Singer Donny Osmond begins the text of his official Web site with these words: “As I've traveled all over the world, the fact that I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has caused a lot of interesting questions. Some want to know how Debbie and I have been able to maintain a strong marriage over all these years while living in the world of show business.”
Osmond continues: “Others want to know how we've dealt with the challenges of raising a close and happy family in such difficult times. How do we maintain a balance between work and family life? Well, you know it's not always easy, but the following pages are my attempt to explain a way of life that helps answer these kinds of questions.”
Some Mormons, seeing a fellow member of their church reach celebrity status, are often excited to see ”one of their own” counter a perception that Mormons are different or even a little strange. This kind of validation does more than just place a Mormon (and by association, Mormonism) in the mainstream: the success and popular acceptance of another Latter-day Saint somehow compensates for what some see as generations of misunderstanding.
Today’s Salt Lake Tribune quotes Mormon Julianne Hough, the Dancing With the Stars winner and country music artist, as she advises Archuleta regarding his future: “Keep your family first. Those are the people you have to rely on. Always be who you are, and don't be afraid to say ‘No.’”
Friday, April 25, 2008
“My Words . . . Never Cease”
We invite all to inquire into the wonder of what God has said since biblical times and is saying even now.
"In general conference last October, I said there were two principal reasons The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is accused, erroneously, of not being Christian. At that time I addressed one of those doctrinal issues—our scripturally based view of the Godhead. Today I would like to address the other major doctrine which characterizes our faith but which causes concern to some, namely the bold assertion that God continues to speak His word and reveal His truth, revelations which mandate an open canon of scripture."
"Some Christians, in large measure because of their genuine love for the Bible, have declared that there can be no more authorized scripture beyond the Bible. In thus pronouncing the canon of revelation closed, our friends in some other faiths shut the door on divine expression that we in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hold dear: the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and the ongoing guidance received by God’s anointed prophets and apostles. Imputing no ill will to those who take such a position, nevertheless we respectfully but resolutely reject such an unscriptural characterization of true Christianity."
"One of the arguments often used in any defense of a closed canon is the New Testament passage recorded in Revelation 22:18: “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of . . . this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.” However, there is now overwhelming consensus among virtually all biblical scholars that this verse applies only to the book of Revelation, not the whole Bible. Those scholars of our day acknowledge a number of New Testament “books” that were almost certainly written after John’s revelation on the Isle of Patmos was received. Included in this category are at least the books of Jude, the three Epistles of John, and probably the entire Gospel of John itself.1 Perhaps there are even more than these."
"But there is a simpler answer as to why that passage in the final book of the current New Testament cannot apply to the whole Bible. That is because the whole Bible as we know it—one collection of texts bound in a single volume—did not exist when that verse was written. For centuries after John produced his writing, the individual books of the New Testament were in circulation singly or perhaps in combinations with a few other texts but almost never as a complete collection. Of the entire corpus of 5,366 known Greek New Testament manuscripts, only 35 contain the whole New Testament as we now know it, and 34 of those were compiled after A.D. 1000.2"
"The fact of the matter is that virtually every prophet of the Old and New Testament has added scripture to that received by his predecessors. If the Old Testament words of Moses were sufficient, as some could have mistakenly thought them to be,3 then why, for example, the subsequent prophecies of Isaiah or of Jeremiah, who follows him? To say nothing of Ezekiel and Daniel, of Joel, Amos, and all the rest. If one revelation to one prophet in one moment of time is sufficient for all time, what justifies these many others? What justifies them was made clear by Jehovah Himself when He said to Moses, “My works are without end, and . . . my words . . . never cease.”4"
"One Protestant scholar has inquired tellingly into the erroneous doctrine of a closed canon. He writes: “On what biblical or historical grounds has the inspiration of God been limited to the written documents that the church now calls its Bible? . . . If the Spirit inspired only the written documents of the first century, does that mean that the same Spirit does not speak today in the church about matters that are of significant concern?”5 We humbly ask those same questions."
"Continuing revelation does not demean or discredit existing revelation. The Old Testament does not lose its value in our eyes when we are introduced to the New Testament, and the New Testament is only enhanced when we read the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. In considering the additional scripture accepted by Latter-day Saints, we might ask: Were those early Christians who for decades had access only to the primitive Gospel of Mark (generally considered the first of the New Testament Gospels to be written)—were they offended to receive the more detailed accounts set forth later by Matthew and Luke, to say nothing of the unprecedented passages and revelatory emphasis offered later yet by John? Surely they must have rejoiced that ever more convincing evidence of the divinity of Christ kept coming. And so do we rejoice."
"Please do not misunderstand. We love and revere the Bible, as Elder M. Russell Ballard taught so clearly from this pulpit just one year ago.6 The Bible is the word of God. It is always identified first in our canon, our “standard works.” Indeed, it was a divinely ordained encounter with the fifth verse of the first chapter of the book of James that led Joseph Smith to his vision of the Father and the Son, which gave birth to the Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ in our time. But even then, Joseph knew the Bible alone could not be the answer to all the religious questions he and others like him had. As he said in his own words, the ministers of his community were contending—sometimes angrily—over their doctrines. “Priest [was] contending against priest, and convert [was contending] against convert . . . in a strife of words and a contest about opinions,” he said. About the only thing these contending religions had in common was, ironically, a belief in the Bible, but, as Joseph wrote, “the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question [regarding which church was true] by an appeal to the Bible.”7 Clearly the Bible, so frequently described at that time as “common ground,” was nothing of the kind—unfortunately it was a battleground."
"Thus one of the great purposes of continuing revelation through living prophets is to declare to the world through additional witnesses that the Bible is true. “This is written,” an ancient prophet said, speaking of the Book of Mormon, “for the intent that ye may believe that,” speaking of the Bible.8 In one of the earliest revelations received by Joseph Smith, the Lord said, “Behold, I do not bring [the Book of Mormon forth] to destroy [the Bible] but to build it up.”9
One other point needs to be made. Since it is clear that there were Christians long before there was a New Testament or even an accumulation of the sayings of Jesus, it cannot therefore be maintained that the Bible is what makes one a Christian. In the words of esteemed New Testament scholar N. T. Wright, “The risen Jesus, at the end of Matthew’s Gospel, does not say, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth is given to the books you are all going to write,’ but [rather] ‘All authority in heaven and on earth is given to me.’ “10 In other words, “Scripture itself points . . . away from itself and to the fact that final and true authority belongs to God himself.”11 So the scriptures are not the ultimate source of knowledge for Latter-day Saints. They are manifestations of the ultimate source. The ultimate source of knowledge and authority for a Latter-day Saint is the living God. The communication of those gifts comes from God as living, vibrant, divine revelation.12"
"This doctrine lies at the very heart of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and of our message to the world. It dramatizes the significance of a solemn assembly yesterday, in which we sustained Thomas S. Monson as a prophet, a seer, and a revelator. We believe in a God who is engaged in our lives, who is not silent, not absent, nor, as Elijah said of the god of the priests of Baal, is He “[on] a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be [awakened].”13 In this Church, even our young Primary children recite, “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.”14"
"In declaring new scripture and continuing revelation, we pray we will never be arrogant or insensitive. But after a sacred vision in a now sacred grove answered in the affirmative the question “Does God exist?” what Joseph Smith and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints force us to face is the next interrogative, which necessarily follows: “Does He speak?” We bring the good news that He does and that He has. With a love and affection born of our Christianity, we invite all to inquire into the wonder of what God has said since biblical times and is saying even now."
"In a sense Joseph Smith and his prophetic successors in this Church answer the challenge Ralph Waldo Emerson put to the students of the Harvard Divinity School 170 years ago this coming summer. To that group of the Protestant best and brightest, the great sage of Concord pled that they teach “that God is, not was; that He speaketh, not spake.”15"
"I testify that the heavens are open. I testify that Joseph Smith was and is a prophet of God, that the Book of Mormon is truly another testament of Jesus Christ. I testify that Thomas S. Monson is God’s prophet, a modern apostle with the keys of the kingdom in his hands, a man upon whom I personally have seen the mantle fall. I testify that the presence of such authorized, prophetic voices and ongoing canonized revelations have been at the heart of the Christian message whenever the authorized ministry of Christ has been on the earth. I testify that such a ministry is on the earth again, and it is found in this, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
"In our heartfelt devotion to Jesus of Nazareth as the very Son of God, the Savior of the world, we invite all to examine what we have received of Him, to join with us, drinking deeply at the “well of water springing up into everlasting life,”16 these constantly flowing reminders that God lives, that He loves us, and that He speaks. I express the deepest personal thanks that His works never end and His “words . . . never cease.” I bear witness of such divine loving attention and the recording of it, in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, amen."
NOTES1. See Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? (1991), 46. The issue of canon is discussed on pages 45–56. Canon is defined as “an authoritative list of books accepted as Holy Scripture” (Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th ed. [2003], “canon”).2. See Bruce M. Metzger, Manuscripts of the Greek Bible: An Introduction to Greek Paleography (1981), 54–55; see also Are Mormons Christians? 46.3. See Deuteronomy 4:2, for example.4. Moses 1:4.5. Lee M. McDonald, The Formation of the Christian Biblical Canon, rev. ed. (1995), 255–56.6. See “The Miracle of the Holy Bible,” Liahona and Ensign, May 2007, 80–82.7. Joseph Smith—History 1:6, 12.8. Mormon 7:9; emphasis added.9. D&C 10:52; see also D&C 20:11.10. N. T. Wright, The Last Word: Beyond the Bible Wars to a New Understanding of the Authority of Scripture (2005), xi.11. Wright, The Last Word, 24.12. For a full essay on this subject, see Dallin H. Oaks, “Scripture Reading and Revelation,” Ensign, Jan. 1995, 6–9.13. 1 Kings 18:27.14. Articles of Faith 1:9.15. “An Address,” The Complete Writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson (1929), 45.16. John 4:14.
Saturday, February 9, 2008
The Only True God and Jesus Christ
".... there is one thing we would not like anyone to wonder about—that is whether or not we are “Christians.”
By and large any controversy in this matter has swirled around two doctrinal issues—our view of the Godhead and our belief in the principle of continuing revelation leading to an open scriptural canon. In addressing this we do not need to be apologists for our faith, but we would like not to be misunderstood. So with a desire to increase understanding and unequivocally declare our Christianity, I speak today on the first of those two doctrinal issues just mentioned.
Our first and foremost article of faith in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.”2 We believe these three divine persons constituting a single Godhead are united in purpose, in manner, in testimony, in mission. We believe Them to be filled with the same godly sense of mercy and love, justice and grace, patience, forgiveness, and redemption. I think it is accurate to say we believe They are one in every significant and eternal aspect imaginable except believing Them to be three persons combined in one substance, a Trinitarian notion never set forth in the scriptures because it is not true.
Indeed no less a source than the stalwart Harper’s Bible Dictionary records that “the formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the [New Testament].”3
So any criticism that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not hold the contemporary Christian view of God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost is not a comment about our commitment to Christ but rather a recognition (accurate, I might add) that our view of the Godhead breaks with post–New Testament Christian history and returns to the doctrine taught by Jesus Himself. Now, a word about that post–New Testament history might be helpful.
In the year A.D. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to address—among other things—the growing issue of God’s alleged “trinity in unity.” What emerged from the heated contentions of churchmen, philosophers, and ecclesiastical dignitaries came to be known (after another 125 years and three more major councils)4 as the Nicene Creed, with later reformulations such as the Athanasian Creed. These various evolutions and iterations of creeds—and others to come over the centuries—declared the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost to be abstract, absolute, transcendent, immanent, consubstantial, coeternal, and unknowable, without body, parts, or passions and dwelling outside space and time. In such creeds all three members are separate persons, but they are a single being, the oft-noted “mystery of the trinity.” They are three distinct persons, yet not three Gods but one. All three persons are incomprehensible, yet it is one God who is incomprehensible.
We agree with our critics on at least that point—that such a formulation for divinity is truly incomprehensible. With such a confusing definition of God being imposed upon the church, little wonder that a fourth-century monk cried out, “Woe is me! They have taken my God away from me, . . . and I know not whom to adore or to address.”5 How are we to trust, love, worship, to say nothing of strive to be like, One who is incomprehensible and unknowable? What of Jesus’s prayer to His Father in Heaven that “this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent”?6
It is not our purpose to demean any person’s belief nor the doctrine of any religion. We extend to all the same respect for their doctrine that we are asking for ours. (That, too, is an article of our faith.) But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first Christian Saints, many of whom were eyewitnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?7
We declare it is self-evident from the scriptures that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are separate persons, three divine beings, noting such unequivocal illustrations as the Savior’s great Intercessory Prayer just mentioned, His baptism at the hands of John, the experience on the Mount of Transfiguration, and the martyrdom of Stephen—to name just four.
With these New Testament sources and more8 ringing in our ears, it may be redundant to ask what Jesus meant when He said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do.”9 On another occasion He said, “I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.”10 Of His antagonists He said, “[They have] . . . seen and hated both me and my Father.”11 And there is, of course, that always deferential subordination to His Father that had Jesus say, “Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.”12 “My father is greater than I.”13
To whom was Jesus pleading so fervently all those years, including in such anguished cries as “O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me”14 and “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me”?15 To acknowledge the scriptural evidence that otherwise perfectly united members of the Godhead are nevertheless separate and distinct beings is not to be guilty of polytheism; it is, rather, part of the great revelation Jesus came to deliver concerning the nature of divine beings. Perhaps the Apostle Paul said it best: “Christ Jesus . . . being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”16
A related reason The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is excluded from the Christian category by some is because we believe, as did the ancient prophets and apostles, in an embodied—but certainly glorified—God.17 To those who criticize this scripturally based belief, I ask at least rhetorically: If the idea of an embodied God is repugnant, why are the central doctrines and singularly most distinguishing characteristics of all Christianity the Incarnation, the Atonement, and the physical Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ? If having a body is not only not needed but not desirable by Deity, why did the Redeemer of mankind redeem His body, redeeming it from the grasp of death and the grave, guaranteeing it would never again be separated from His spirit in time or eternity?18 Any who dismiss the concept of an embodied God dismiss both the mortal and the resurrected Christ. No one claiming to be a true Christian will want to do that.
Now, to anyone within the sound of my voice who has wondered regarding our Christianity, I bear this witness. I testify that Jesus Christ is the literal, living Son of our literal, living God. This Jesus is our Savior and Redeemer who, under the guidance of the Father, was the Creator of heaven and earth and all things that in them are. I bear witness that He was born of a virgin mother, that in His lifetime He performed mighty miracles observed by legions of His disciples and by His enemies as well. I testify that He had power over death because He was divine but that He willingly subjected Himself to death for our sake because for a period of time He was also mortal. I declare that in His willing submission to death He took upon Himself the sins of the world, paying an infinite price for every sorrow and sickness, every heartache and unhappiness from Adam to the end of the world. In doing so He conquered both the grave physically and hell spiritually and set the human family free. I bear witness that He was literally resurrected from the tomb and, after ascending to His Father to complete the process of that Resurrection, He appeared, repeatedly, to hundreds of disciples in the Old World and in the New. I know He is the Holy One of Israel, the Messiah who will one day come again in final glory, to reign on earth as Lord of lords and King of kings. I know that there is no other name given under heaven whereby a man can be saved and that only by relying wholly upon His merits, mercy, and everlasting grace19 can we gain eternal life.
My additional testimony regarding this resplendent doctrine is that in preparation for His millennial latter-day reign, Jesus has already come, more than once, in embodied majestic glory. In the spring of 1820, a 14-year-old boy, confused by many of these very doctrines that still confuse much of Christendom, went into a grove of trees to pray. In answer to that earnest prayer offered at such a tender age, the Father and the Son appeared as embodied, glorified beings to the boy prophet Joseph Smith. That day marked the beginning of the return of the true, New Testament gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and the restoration of other prophetic truths offered from Adam down to the present day.
I testify that my witness of these things is true and that the heavens are open to all who seek the same confirmation. Through the Holy Spirit of Truth, may we all know “the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom [He has] sent.”20 Then may we live Their teachings and be true Christians in deed, as well as in word, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."
NOTES1. Isaiah 29:14.2. Articles of Faith 1:1.3. Paul F. Achtemeier, ed. (1985), 1099; emphasis added.4. Constantinople, A.D. 381; Ephesus, A.D. 431; Chalcedon, A.D. 451.5. Quoted in Owen Chadwick, Western Asceticism (1958), 235.6. John 17:3; emphasis added.7. For a thorough discussion of this issue, see Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christian? 71–89; see also Robert Millet, Getting at the Truth (2004), 106–22.8. See, for example, John 12:27–30; John 14:26; Romans 8:34; Hebrews 1:1–3.9. John 5:19; see also John 14:10.10. John 6:38.11. John 15:24.12. Matthew 19:17.13. John 14:28.14. Matthew 26:39.15. Matthew 27:46.16. Philippians 2:5–6.17. See David L. Paulsen, “Early Christian Belief in a Corporeal Deity: Origen and Augustine as Reluctant Witnesses,” Harvard Theological Review, vol. 83, no. 2 (1990): 105–16; David L. Paulsen, “The Doctrine of Divine Embodiment: Restoration, Judeo-Christian, and Philosophical Perspectives,” BYU Studies, vol. 35, no. 4 (1996): 7–94; James L. Kugel, The God of Old: Inside the Lost World of the Bible (2003), xi–xii, 5–6, 104–6, 134–35; Clark Pinnock, Most Moved Mover: A Theology of God’s Openness (2001), 33–34.18. See Romans 6:9; Alma 11:45.19. See 1 Nephi 10:6; 2 Nephi 2:8; 31:19; Moroni 6:4; Joseph Smith Translation, Romans 3:24.20. John 17:3.
Friday, January 18, 2008
Urge for Tolerance and Civility
I have pondered on this scripture many times. The Savior of the world is commanding me to love others as He loves me... this is not a small thing. Because I have felt His love for me in so many ways in my life and it passes all my understanding, that's some BIG love. I love Him because He first loved me... And that's the kind of thing that changes the world for the better!!! (1 John 4:19 "We love Him, because He first loved us.")
The following is taken from a talk by President Gordon B. Hinckley. I revere him as a Prophet of God. However I don't share this with an expectation for you to revere him as a Prophet too. I simply share this because I think all true Christians would appreciate and agree with the counsel given here... because it is right in line with what the Savior taught.
"We must not become disagreeable as we talk of doctrinal differences. There is no place for acrimony....We can respect other religions, and must do so. We must recognize the great good they accomplish. We must teach our children to be tolerant and friendly toward those not of our faith. We can and do work with those of other religions in the defense of those values which have made our civilization great and our society distinctive....We can and do work with those of other religions in various undertakings in the everlasting fight against social evils which threaten the treasured values which are so important to all of us. These people are not of our faith, but they are our friends, neighbors, and co-workers in a variety of causes. We are pleased to lend our strength to their efforts.
But in all of this there is no doctrinal compromise. There need not be and must not be on our part. But there is a degree of fellowship as we labor together.
As we carry forward our distinctive mission, we work under a mandate given us by the risen Lord, who has spoken in this last and final dispensation. This is His unique and wonderful cause. We bear testimony and witness of Him. But we need not do so with arrogance or self-righteousness.
As Peter expressed it, we are “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people.” Why? That we might “shew forth the praises of him who hath called [us] out of darkness into his marvellous light” (1 Peter 2:9).
A holier-than-thou attitude is not becoming to us....Let us rise above all such conduct and teach our children to do likewise. Let us be true disciples of the Christ, observing the Golden Rule, doing unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us strengthen our own faith and that of our children while being gracious to those who are not of our faith. Love and respect will overcome every element of animosity. Our kindness may be the most persuasive argument for that which we believe." - President Gordon B. Hinckley, Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Ensign, May 1998)
Thursday, January 17, 2008
To Give Understanding and Clarity About My Faith
"Here are four subjects that will help someone today to gain a basic understanding of the Church. Under each of the four headings, there are some simple statements I have found helpful....The four main subjects deal with facts, faith, families, and fruits of the restored gospel.
Facts
Some facts might include:
1. “Mormon” is a nickname for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Members are often referred to as “Mormons,” “Latter-day Saints,” or “LDS.” The term “Saint” means “member.”
2. The Church was restored in 1830 in upstate New York with Joseph Smith as its first prophet and president. Today it is headquartered in Salt Lake City, with President Gordon B. Hinckley as the present prophet.
3. There are now over 13 million members in 176 countries and territories. About 6 million of these are in the United States, making us the fourth largest Christian denomination in America. As one of the fastest growing Christian faiths in the world, we complete a new chapel every working day. Members pay a tithe, which is 10 percent of their income, making this and other programs possible.
4. Local congregations are led by volunteer, unpaid members. Both men and women serve in assigned leadership positions.
5. Mormons are well represented in politics and government. (In the United States, for example, there are 16 members in Congress, from both political parties.) Members also serve in high and trusted positions throughout the world in business, medicine, law, education, media, sports, and entertainment.
Faith
* Next, people need to know something of our faith as committed Christians with strong traditional values. Along with the Articles of Faith we need to emphasize that:
* We believe in the eternity of the soul, that God is the Father of our spirits, and that we can return to Him after death.
* We believe that Jesus Christ is our personal Savior, and we try to model our lives after Him and His teachings. We commemorate Christ’s atoning sacrifice in our Sunday worship services, similar to taking communion in other churches. We accept as fellow Christians all who believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God and the Savior of all mankind. Many Christians do not understand that we have much common ground with them. Joseph Smith taught that Jesus Christ is the core of our belief, and everything else is an appendage to it (see Elders’ Journal, July 1838, 44). The name of the Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
* We believe the original church that Jesus established was lost and has been restored again in our day. The priesthood, the authority given to man to act in the name of God, with apostles and a prophet to lead us, has been restored as have all necessary ordinances of salvation.
* We believe in and we use the Holy Bible, both the Old and New Testaments.
* And we believe in the Book of Mormon and other books of scripture which support and authenticate the Bible and testify of the ministry and divinity of Christ and of God’s ongoing revelation to man. Indeed, the Book of Mormon is “Another Testament of Jesus Christ.”
Family
* The next thing it is good for people to know is how family-centered our theology and our lifestyles are. Once again, simple statements are helpful to someone who is uninformed but curious about the importance we place on families.
* Mormons place particularly strong emphasis on family as the basic unit of the Church and of society. We have a deep commitment to marriage (defined as a union between one man and one woman). Polygamy, a limited practice in the early pioneer days of the Church, was discontinued in 1890, some 117 years ago.
* Families and individuals, whether members of our faith or not, can attend Sunday services in our chapels. Here we worship together, instructing one another from the scriptures.
Latter-day Saint families are encouraged to hold family home evenings weekly, usually on Monday nights. This provides a regular and predictable time for parents to teach values to their children and to have fun together. We invite those not of our faith to adopt this practice with their own families.
* The Church has auxiliary programs for women, youth, and children as a support to the family. These programs provide such things as religious instruction, opportunities for Christian service, sports, drama, music, and Scouting.
* And there is also much focus on extended family, genealogy, and personal family history, providing young and old with a stronger sense of roots, identity, and belonging. The highest and most sacred ordinances of our faith relate to our families, both living and dead, and some of these ordinances take place in our temples.
Fruits
Now, even as someone begins to understand a few facts about us and comes to know us more accurately by our faith and the importance of family, it was the Savior who said “by their fruits ye shall know them” (Matthew 7:20; emphasis added). A church, or any way of life, should be judged by the fruits or the results that it generates. Here are a few examples based on United States statistics. But these would be similar throughout the world among practicing Mormons (by which we mean those who attend church and the temple regularly):
1. One of the fruits is a longer life. Studies show that practicing Mormons are healthier and therefore live longer than the national average. In 1833 the Lord revealed to Joseph Smith the Word of Wisdom, which is the way to live in order to enjoy a long and healthy life.
2. Those who are married in and attend the temple regularly have a divorce rate far below the national and world average.
3. We achieve an educational level that is higher than the national average.
4. Over 70,000 members volunteer at their own expense to serve for 18 to 24 months in humanitarian efforts, Church service assignments, and full-time missionary service throughout the world.
5. We place strong emphasis on self-reliance and a solid work ethic. We encourage active involvement in our communities and in providing service to others. The Church continues to donate substantial money, goods, and services to humanitarian causes around the globe, including untold hours of labor donated by members to assist in disaster cleanup and relief."
- Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles Oct. 2007 General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Judging
Thursday, January 3, 2008
Advice for Inter-Faith Discussions
"1. If you're going to ask the question, "What do others believe?" in their various faiths. Ask them... Not their critics, not their enemies.
Because what one religious tradition says about another is usually a breech against the commandment, "thou shalt not bear false wittiness."
2. If you're going to compare... don't compare your "bests" with their "worsts" - But compare "best" with "best."
Most people think of their own tradition as it is, "at it's best" and use caricatures of the others.
3. Leave room for "Holy Envy."
Let me give you an example of my "holy envy" for the Latter-Day-Saints: We Lutherans, when we lose our loved ones, we have funerals, we have cemeteries... but that ends our concern with those who have gone before. But the Latter-Day-Saints care about their for-bearers that they want to bring the blessings of Christ's Atonement to them so they build Temples.... and according to Paul's instruction in 1 Corinthians they perform baptisms for the dead. I have "holy envy" for that.
In a world where we finally have learned what I call "the holy envy" - it's a beautiful thing! - I could think of myself as taking part in such an act [baptisms for the dead]: Extending the blessings that have come to me in and through Jesus Christ. That's Generous, that's beautiful and should not be ridiculed or spoken badly of."
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Friday, December 7, 2007
Moromon or LDS?
I am so thankful for Jesus Christ. He is my personal Lord and Savior. I love Him and revere Him with all of my heart. I know that it is only through Him that I can be saved. I will praise and honor Him for the rest of my days.
When He was on the earth He taught us the straight and narrow way. He taught us to have faith in God. (Matt 4:17) He taught us to repent and be baptized in His name. (Mark 11:22, Matt 3:13-17) And to receive the comforter, the Holy Ghost to guide us through this life (John 20:21-22). Once we have done these things we must continue in this way. It is not a one time thing or just a Sunday thing... it is a pattern of living for our daily lives that we must endure to the very end.
One of my favorite scriptures in the Book of Mormon is: "After ye have gotten into this straight and narrow path, I would ask if all is done? Behold I say unto you, Nay; For ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in Him, relying wholly upon the merits of Him who is mighty to save. Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward feasting upon the word of Christ and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life... And there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. (2 Nephi 31:19-21)
I don't have a problem with people calling me "Mormon" or "LDS"... just as long as they know that I am a CHRISTIAN.

